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Post by xtian on Jan 7, 2009 7:37:08 GMT 1
Dear fellow racers: to our great dissapointment, we had to resolve ourself to the idea that some racers did not respect the rules of the ROC last sunday and therefore did not respect this league either. We made it clear that every participant had to use the hard track set and 5% fuel. It had been stated on the forum and had been repeteadly asked online during the test race and final race. Now, one participant said he did not have the set anymore. ok. But it appears clear that those who raced with the top down, or displayed brands on the side of their tires did use custom sets too. Some other kept the top and the blank tyres but still used more sophisticated set ups. you know who you are. and we know too ... evidence: look at the animated GIF below. They were extracted from last sunday's replays. Before the start of the race, all cars standing still. car 1 is the reference car, using hard track set. car 2 is a regular racer allegedly using hardtrack set. car 3 is a car with visible custom set (aka "cheater"). We were really dissapointed to learn that. Not so much because of the points and competition, but because we do not think that cheating has anything to do with what we are trying to do here. All this time we thought it was all about fun, respect and fair competition. We do not want to patronize anyone but this is not a behaviour we want to see spread on this league. at this point we are still discussing the possibilities of indivual penalties or canceling the whole results as this race was obviously corrupted. any comment appriciated for the admins, X.
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Post by sennaboy on Jan 7, 2009 14:03:44 GMT 1
Hi all,
i was one of them in the second race i had to drive. Why, well i did see more then one driver with open roof, in the hard track set you CAN'T change it.Also i did look and i see different heights of the car. So thats the reason why i did do some changes to.I know it was not correct of me to to the same thing, but i did do it.I was wrong, so i apologize me for that.
greets sennaboy
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Post by hanziboy on Jan 7, 2009 16:47:28 GMT 1
Hi all, i was one of them in the second race i had to drive. Why, well i did see more then one driver with open roof, in the hard track set you CAN'T change it.Also i did look and i see different heights of the car. So thats the reason why i did do some changes to.I know it was not correct of me to to the same thing, but i did do it.I was wrong, so i apologize me for that. greets sennaboy Thank you Sennaboy to be honest now, it takes courage to admit you were wrong to cheat.. And indeed it is not because others cheated, we all should do it.. The big problem with this race was that we don't know a way to force everybody to use the same setup. But we thought we could trust everyone on this knowing the spirit LiveForSpeed.be leagues lives in..Fun is still numero uno ! So racers don't have to use cheats to have Fun we thought. The only mistake we made is beiing naive to think everyone would play it fair. But it would not be the LiveForSpeed.be league if we did not gave you a second chance. We give all the racers, that did not drove the standard set for all the races, the change to come forward. If you are to shamed to do this here on the forum, you can always mail to "admin A T LiveForSpeed.be".. We know almost 100% for sure who cheated, but the fact that we are not 100% sure gives us no right to put the names in public here. So if you did not play it fair we expect a mail before Sunday evening. Or final decision will be made Sunday evening on the Forum and Website. Result of this all of course is that ROC races are of league races for the moment. A disappointed admin
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Post by SLO_Scatter on Jan 7, 2009 18:00:28 GMT 1
Thank you Sennaboy, that indeed takes courage to admit when you were wrong. Hopefully the others will take your example and do the same.
I'm not upset or disappointed because of where I placed in the finish order, because I'm not that fast and I accept that. But I am disappointed at the drivers that thought they couldn't compete using the same setup the rest of us were using. We were attempting to make everything even for everyone, but that didn't work.
A sad admin
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Post by towzt on Jan 9, 2009 1:50:41 GMT 1
I admit that i used a non std set in my 1st run (forgot that i had to be the stad set). but since i lost everything, i don't really think it did matter . as soon as i found out about the std setup, i changed it. I thought i did change that setup ever, so it was me saying i didn't have it anymore. but found a std set on the intermewebs and used that one this was my 1st season ever in any league. i enjoyed it. thx guys
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Post by sennaboy on Jan 9, 2009 12:08:23 GMT 1
Hi all,
where are the other honest racers? i see more than two racers included me on track.Or are you all afraid to be honest you cheat last race event? I don't say names but i know who was cheating.
greets sennaboy
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Post by hanziboy on Jan 9, 2009 12:33:09 GMT 1
I also don't think they all checked the forum.. so a lot have not seen this message. Therefor I will send this message out to all members by mail.
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Post by SLO_Scatter on Jan 9, 2009 15:10:32 GMT 1
Ya, the forum activity has been pretty slow this week. The racers in question haven't been on the forum this week.
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Post by a3rox on Jan 9, 2009 22:06:00 GMT 1
Hi everyones, I hope i had the right setup, maybe i made any mistakes by selecting my setup but i am not sure, i dont think Then if i had the wrong setup, i am so sorry!! Btw theses two last races was the first for me in this league, and it was really fun! So be sure to see me here with you the next season!! See you on the track!
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Post by wellingtonsampaio on Jan 10, 2009 2:36:20 GMT 1
Hi all!
I think i used the hard track set and 5 % fuel.
Wellington
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Post by beniwiwi on Jan 11, 2009 23:43:04 GMT 1
For sure i used the correct set.
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Post by Jyuetsch on Jan 12, 2009 13:34:55 GMT 1
I dont have another set for this race. Once I tried the raceset, but didnt like it and this was in a practice session. So I hope I have changed it to the hardtrack_set again! Tell me if I didnt. I hope not!
J
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Post by hanziboy on Jan 12, 2009 16:51:42 GMT 1
We have not received any personal messages regarding this issue .. So all racers that have been racing with another set are reported here.. But we are still sure others were driving other sets. The winner and some others were also not sure they raced with the standard set. Also we could not force the setup up to you by software...
Therefore we have decided that the results of this event will not count for the total of Season 3. And those events will always be of calendar events as long as we can not forced the set up the the racers.
Those who did show up and raced all of there races will receive the 2 points for participating.
Cu back on track !!! Hanziboy - Xtian - Slo_Scatter
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Post by sennaboy on Jan 13, 2009 9:37:34 GMT 1
Hohohohoooooooowwww, it seems I'm the only one? ? great, i know what i must do next roc race, change the set but keep tires without marks on it, hohohohooooowwww, some here are not that honest like i am. What not say that i wasn't wrong do like others did. greets sennaboy
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Post by hanziboy on Jan 13, 2009 10:41:37 GMT 1
Hohohohoooooooowwww, it seems I'm the only one? ? great, i know what i must do next roc race, change the set but keep tires without marks on it, hohohohooooowwww, some here are not that honest like i am. What not say that i wasn't wrong do like others did. greets sennaboy yeps Sennaboy .. also Towzt admited here he did not drove the standard set.. So we had 2 reports on using the wrong set. And some who did not know what setup they were using.
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