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Post by salatoimikud on Oct 7, 2012 22:12:05 GMT 1
Ok, everybody blame me because of crashes. Lets talk little bit.
First: What i can do? I race like i race. I dont push you out of race because i want, it just happens. If i want push you out, i just coming full speed to first corner... (like they do demo servers)
I take full responsibility only one crash/touch - where i pushed friodrik to the fall when SC. I didnt expect, that so low speed, anyone brakes so early and didnt notice brake light. So sorry about that.
But now: STI-Team: Not nice language at all. Even you ruined my first race, i didnt send you **** words.
And videos:
STI-Lex: maybe YOU should be banned for this? I was (talking later for that) pretty same event with you teammate, and you just have to talk dirty and reviled me. But that move also ruined my race.
Yeah, there was little contact with STI-Mario. I flyied on the wall. But Mario first started sliding. So i watched replay and what i saw, whole the time, he holded full gas. If he had released the gas and braked little bit (or used cluch), he would not have hit the wall and the car would be left intact. Now you coming to talk me about blue flag - yes there was blue flag, but if i be faster than you, then i overtake. If i dont overtake, coming next racer, overtakes me and i loose place. +1 lap doesnt mean that im now cruising there. Now, there are more racers, who is my back.
LPR Ago76 - Nice guy, Yeah ban me, but like i see, you do not know anything about SC rules. You dont know how call SC (you just type "help"), you dont know, when is green light. Pretty same STI-Lex, just going and then telling some obscene words to others.
Didnt expect, that you brake so early (and so hard). + there was some king lag? if i watch my replay slow motion, then i see one moment, that my front tire hits you and next moment you already sliding front of me.
Why im Idiot? Slided little bit when breaked, and because that was little contact. You started sliding, i saw that and all happened so fast. I didn press brake so fast, even guys who was back of me, just hitted us...
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Post by hanziboy on Oct 8, 2012 8:09:52 GMT 1
As I already send an email to LEX.. those kind of reactions are not allowed!! and in some cases here you were right to.. But you must admit dat your ar involved in a lot of incidents to... Why?? Because when you race you leave just, but not more, room for a perfect move to happen. But perfect is not always the case... Indeed cars can slide a bit, brake a little sooner then expected.. And when it goes wrong.. then just enough room is changed into .. not enough room. The blue flag .... There you were correct to pass him, as he made a mistake.. But when your in front of him and and getting the blue flag .. the gap between you to needs to increase.. and for a while it did.. But then he could catch up with you again even had to brake hard for you.. Then you should him let you pass again.. you did not and so he got irritated.. And I would to.. . 8.6 At a blue flag situation you always deviate from the ideal race line within the next 3 following corners. This must happen however at a safe place. This also means that faster drivers may only pass you when this can be done safely!!! So a faster driver has no right to claim his place when the passing move CAN NOT be done safely!!
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Post by xtian on Oct 8, 2012 8:12:58 GMT 1
first of all, I really ask - again - everyone to relax and avoid name calling and anger. After all, I doubt that any of us did negotiate a very expensive contract with a sponsor so the issues here are really futile and there is no cause to ruin your day. I think that we all suffer from the computer game experience and we do lose sight on the fact that we are not playing against artificial intelligence or computers but against (or with?) a series of individuals, and we all deserve mutual and equal respect. Every now and then one racer is blamed for being dangerous, it might happen because of a series of bad luck, a series of bad decisions, or a series of bold moves that didn't pay and maybe where too aggressive. Let's not scream with the wolves and defend your clan or team without a cold fact analysis. There were a high rate of crash in witch Salatoimik was involved lately, and a series of mistakes. This accusation also ran against other drivers and a couple of fast and fair guys left the last training race because they felt that other were just crashing into them rather than racing, and this time Salatoimik had nothing to do with it, so let's not watch the straw in the other guy's eye. What can we do ? - avoid crashing: race as safe as possible, leave room for others, use the side views and mirrors. To finish first, first you must finish. - avoid bad reaction: Do not judge hastily, watch the replay, assume that people can do mistakes. Who need enemies ? we're here for the fun. - as admins: we are racing too and cannot monitor every car on track while racing, we have to rely on replays and cannot make a decision in real time On that particular incident, as you can see on the attached screenshot, Ago DID brake earlier on lap 7 than on last fast lap (lap 6 was ran under safety car). And if Ago had stick with us a little longer, he could have witnessed the end of the race, witch was a close fair and clean fight including Salatoimik. So I'm not blaming or taking defence for anyone, I'm just saying that we must all do our part to ensure a clean and fun evening for everyone and not jump at each other's throat when an incident happens. because as much as modern motorsport and society want to make you believe, incident DO happen. Yes they do Attachments:
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Post by lex977 on Oct 8, 2012 16:49:51 GMT 1
I would first like to apologize to all the participants and administrators to the words used, not my style!
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Post by lex977 on Oct 8, 2012 17:11:48 GMT 1
But now:STI-Team: Not nice language at all. Even you ruined my first race, i didnt send you **** words. And videos:STI-Lex: maybe YOU should be banned for this? I was (talking later for that) pretty same event with you teammate, and you just have to talk dirty and reviled me. But that move also ruined my race. Yeah, there was little contact with STI-Mario. I flyied on the wall. But Mario first started sliding. So i watched replay and what i saw, whole the time, he holded full gas. If he had released the gas and braked little bit (or used cluch), he would not have hit the wall and the car would be left intact. Now you coming to talk me about blue flag - yes there was blue flag, but if i be faster than you, then i overtake. If i dont overtake, coming next racer, overtakes me and i loose place. +1 lap doesnt mean that im now cruising there. Now, there are more racers, who is my back. LPR Ago76 - Nice guy, Yeah ban me, but like i see, you do not know anything about SC rules. You dont know how call SC (you just type "help"), you dont know, when is green light. Pretty same STI-Lex, just going and then telling some obscene words to others. First : [glow=red,2,300]not to mention STI team because ICE did not use bad words against anyone, here we are talking about individual riders not Team !![/glow]Second: in race 1 were doubled, you left me no way and you threw out Mario, or perhaps you were not aware of being dubbed? strange, you are warned by a written Third: though many have complained, perhaps it is the case that you are serious about being a little dangerous on the track Fourth: You showed the video of the incident that I had with Ago ........ Ago is a friend of mine and unfortunately the accident was caused by a lag crazy that I was not able to see where he was ... .. I apologized to him in teamspeak Fifth: [glow=red,2,300]never to speak ill of a team if one member uses words or poor manners, others might not be happy.[/glow]Sixth: last video shows when I passed all under the safety car, mistakes happen to everyone and I seemed to see the writing green flag instead of open pitlane. in that case I did not hit anyone, however, and I have not ruined car and the race to anyone. ah forgot .......... buffered me even when we were going to box ...... or do you even remember that? how can I call you crasher ?? I'll be crazy or you a little too careless? I now stop with the words ....... I apologize again to everyone and I hope that administrators will take serious action against you because to me I will take them by just leaving the championship! I wish you a good continuation to all! sorry if my English is not perfect but I used google translate and not always translated in the right way ! ps: your race was ruined from your mistakes certainly not since my accident in race 1
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Post by lex977 on Oct 8, 2012 17:31:54 GMT 1
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Post by lex977 on Oct 8, 2012 17:36:05 GMT 1
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Post by salatoimikud on Oct 8, 2012 18:39:52 GMT 1
yeah, again me vs whole team & their "friendzone". Dmn guys, this is race not some dmn cruising. And races it happens... YEah, im driving little bit accressive, but this is like i am..... You can talk, that hold the cap and so on. But how the fc i can race, when i must be hold only cap. @ago brake - yes i didnt saw that. Maybe i watched where xtian are or something and boom. @mario - maybe he fault too, why he dont use mirros to watch where others are... @lex & ago crash - i dont know about lag. Anybody cant control that expect you. Maybe i tell that i have lag too and i didnt saw, where mario goes... I dont know, do i must quit now this season to be sure that Lex & CO can cruise to finish every race.
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Post by lex977 on Oct 8, 2012 19:50:10 GMT 1
yeah, again me vs whole team & their "friendzone". Dmn guys, this is race not some dmn cruising. And races it happens... YEah, im driving little bit accressive, but this is like i am..... You can talk, that hold the cap and so on. But how the fc i can race, when i must be hold only cap. @ago brake - yes i didnt saw that. Maybe i watched where xtian are or something and boom. @mario - maybe he fault too, why he dont use mirros to watch where others are... @lex & ago crash - i dont know about lag. Anybody cant control that expect you. Maybe i tell that i have lag too and i didnt saw, where mario goes... I dont know, do i must quit now this season to be sure that Lex & CO can cruise to finish every race. only LEX....no LEX & CO.......i leave championship......you can continue
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Post by xtian on Oct 9, 2012 4:20:22 GMT 1
You can prove that those were unfortunate accident and make a clean race on next occasion and end up with a clean win (because you all are very fast drivers) , or you can show that neither of you can control your temper and just be a quitter. At the end of the day you know that you are not so much angry against the other guy than you are angry against yourself for not avoiding those accident.
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Post by lex977 on Oct 9, 2012 7:48:08 GMT 1
You can prove that those were unfortunate accident and make a clean race on next occasion and end up with a clean win (because you all are very fast drivers) , or you can show that neither of you can control your temper and just be a quitter. At the end of the day you know that you are not so much angry against the other guy than you are angry against yourself for not avoiding those accident. Xtian now I've made my decision ......... next year if there will be a league i will check members and decide whether to participate or not ........ as long as you want me. thanks again hello
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Post by xtian on Oct 9, 2012 9:59:06 GMT 1
Jarama 1970, Oliver loses it and crash into Ickx. Ickx survives miraculously. Nowhere have a read that icxk called Oliver names and quit. He raced the next week and finish second of the 1970 championship.
Nurburgring 1976; Lauda loses it and half the pack smaches into his car. He lost is helmet in the shock and got out of the hospital with a face like a sausage. A month later he was back in the car with the fabric of his helmet sticking into his wounds.
1979, believe it or not, rené Arnoux himself welcomed me in his house to tell me every details of this fight. It was a few years ago but I don't remember he called Villeneuve names at any moment, and the two were joking about it on the podium and fought for the rest of the championship, villeneuve finished second, he didn't quit.
And, you quit ?
errrhhh... ok.
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Post by lex977 on Oct 9, 2012 15:05:10 GMT 1
Jarama 1970, Oliver loses it and crash into Ickx. Ickx survives miraculously. Nowhere have a read that icxk called Oliver names and quit. He raced the next week and finish second of the 1970 championship. Nurburgring 1976; Lauda loses it and half the pack smaches into his car. He lost is helmet in the shock and got out of the hospital with a face like a sausage. A month later he was back in the car with the fabric of his helmet sticking into his wounds. 1979, believe it or not, rené Arnoux himself welcomed me in his house to tell me every details of this fight. It was a few years ago but I don't remember he called Villeneuve names at any moment, and the two were joking about it on the podium and fought for the rest of the championship, villeneuve finished second, he didn't quit. And, you quit ? errrhhh... ok. xtian here we are making a comparison with professional drivers who are paid a lot of money! they had, in addition to the passion and madness, even very interested in continuing to run. but we are participating in a game and as such there should be fun. if I do not enjoy the game I do not participate. last thing I wanted to point out to salatoimik that when he hit Mario was behind him and not meters, but a ride, so he had to be more careful and do not try to attack him. thanks again Xtian and Hans ...... I'll see you on the track at other times.
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Post by pisano76 on Oct 9, 2012 21:14:52 GMT 1
Ok guys with sausage we cleared and he herringbone because it has slowed down the straight. all play for fun, fun is also respect others without making the "smart" all we do not end ever to learn ............................ even by ROSSI and all the other drivers ;D Attachments:
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Post by towzt on Oct 10, 2012 11:42:13 GMT 1
d**n, looks like i missed something on sunday
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