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Post by toyotasupra612 on Jun 8, 2013 22:21:02 GMT 1
Hi guys, about the incident with knuckle, it was absolutely not on purpose, i didn't meant to take him out, i was just a bit surprised of a little move from him and didn't know what to expect as reaction from him when i was comin behind, once again i'm really sorry
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Post by xtian on Jun 9, 2013 8:46:35 GMT 1
Hi guys, about the incident with knuckle, it was absolutely not on purpose, i didn't meant to take him out, i was just a bit surprised of a little move from him and didn't know what to expect as reaction from him when i was comin behind, once again i'm really sorry I am sure it was not on purpose, no worry. I just wanted to make sure that this incident would not be used against Knukkle to feed an old grudge. Mistakes happen, anyone can run too hot into a car that has damages, burnt/cold tyres or just recovered from a slide and has a different speed than yours and it's not always the slower car to blame.
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Post by 13veijalainen on Jun 9, 2013 9:25:55 GMT 1
...there was one more accident by Ernest... Lap 1 time 1:27. He comes back on the track after he done mistake schicane and hit me. I lost 6 pos. and mine suspension broken...
"Watch the 24h of le mans and you'll see that pro racers can do it for 24h straight in day and darkerst night, someone as immensely talented as yourself should be able to do it for half an hour on its computer using the minimap."
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Post by hanziboy on Jun 10, 2013 8:35:08 GMT 1
We look into it.
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Post by hanziboy on Jun 10, 2013 15:43:41 GMT 1
Added to race report..but did not change the result :
1:47.04 - Ernest loses control going the the turn 13 chicane. Ernest tries hard to save his car and his lead, but when he re-enters the track he hits Veijalainen's right front and causes Veijalainen to go off track and lose 5 positions... 20sec penalty for Ernest
Also remember you can send us a complain to after the race don't wait untill we have the race report ready .. We don't see that as a racer who is complaining but as one helping us out.. Reviewing the race searching for incidents is very time consuming task. Something Scatter always realizes for us.. HE deserves a trophy for this !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 12:45:33 GMT 1
Watch the 24h of le mans and you'll see that pro racers can do it for 24h straight in day and darkerst night, someone as immensely talented as yourself should be able to do it for half an hour on its computer using the minimap. Haha but i have all minimaps, split times and other unrealistic things turned off couse i dont like it and dont be so seriuos, its just funny that knuckles always appears in wrong time in wrong place. U cant warn Hamilton couse he hit Knuckles, first - knuckles has blue flag, second - he was driving way waaay more slower, so if he driving so slow he shouldnt drive on race line. Its extremly hard to react when u drive 300km/h on last lap and there are guy in the middle of thight section who driving 150km/h. Its just sad that Hamilton lost his first place cosue he said sorry and now saying sorry there, and nearly lost couple positions couse Knuckles ignored blue flag, not making room in place wheres only ONE line, driving his Safety Car pace. Hamilton deserved that win and for me he is the winner. Anyway i said sorry to veijalainen for my stupid move, i deserve penality but knuckles just saying nothing even if its totally his fault. Just entering race, qualifying last, crashing into walls in race, and driving exremly slow i dont saying im the best, im slow and i making lot of mistakes too, but when i see him crashing into wall in front on me on straight section.. i just cant belive my eyes xd i cant understand sense of his driving in this races, its blowing my mind, he dont even talking with us... And im really trying to respect him but sometimes he is in wrong time in wrong place like i said. It will be easier to swallow if he would say something here or after race, but he just dont care.
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Post by xtian on Jun 12, 2013 14:14:18 GMT 1
Ok, I understand, I suppose we'll have to edict a new set of rules then to support your vision. Rule 137.36 : All racers have to move out of Ernest's way because he finds it extremely hard to react so other will have to do it for him. When there's only ONE line, Ernest doesn't care, just create a new line for him. rule 137.37 : All racers have to move out of Ernest's way but he can cross the track and crash into other cars whenever he wants because f*ck you, he's Ernest. There, I'm glad we managed to solve this little incident, let's go racing now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 14:22:26 GMT 1
I see Xtian u have strong arguments for that what i said maybe say something true, than showing that how u dont like me:) First i dont said anything about my problems with Knuckles its about ignoring blue flag in specific situation, i mean race 16. Next watch who giving the room in real race, lapper or guy who lapping? i think blue flag is for lapper so thats the guy who should give the way... just watch the replay Knuckles just slows dwon in the middle of shickane blocking inside and outside line. Just say me why u defending this guy? Maybe he should say something here. It was Knucles fault he had time to give the way on easier part of the track. Just write here real arguments if u thinking different.
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Post by xtian on Jun 12, 2013 15:38:57 GMT 1
dude, let me hug you, I swear I like you as much as any other guy here, and I would defend anyone that would be denied the simple right to join our races, you can't just pop in and decide that this one or that one must not race with you, he has the right to be there as much as me and you. He made mistakes, I made mistakes, we now know that you make mistakes too. What I don't like is the repeated personal complains that you make against one regular member of this league for some reason that I don't know. What I don't like is the modern trend in real races to blame everyone else when things don't go how you want them to go. I've never heard Jim Clark or Graham Hill complain that some other guy did not let him pass and it made his race difficult. This is online racing, it involves different people together at the same time and you have to deal with it. You want to have a sure win ? choose another game, offline. If you think some guy does not drive well enough for your standards, give him an appointment on the training track and teach him. Give him your set, show him the good lines and the proper braking points, we used to do that with GURU back in the days and that is the idea behind the training sessions. It would be more constructive and enjoyable for you as for me than whining. (and no, it was Hamilton's fault, he should have slow down and pass in a safer place, I think he agreed with this.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 16:31:42 GMT 1
hahah i can teach him but he wont even talk:D i said to him once that he have terrible lines in corners and should change them and he said " " maybe i was living in false my whole life and people dont using english in usa and he cant understand us:D I dont understand that point of view that lapper needs more respect than leaders of the race xd knuckles made mistake too couse he suprisly slows down in shickane and take middle line, that was place where everyone driving in full throttle, im sure hamilton thinks that he will go there way faster but he slows down form 250 to 200. So at least it could be racing incident but dont blame on hamilton, i dont like unfair decisions. its again blue flag issues with knuck and again whole fault of leader in ur opinion, how i cant complain? leaders want to be respected too.
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Post by hanziboy on Jun 14, 2013 8:25:26 GMT 1
First of all let's read the rule about the Blue Flag ... : 8.6 At a blue flag situation you always deviate from the ideal race line within the next 3 following corners. This must happen however at a safe place. This also means that faster drivers may only pass you when this can be done safely!!! So a faster driver has no right to claim his place when the passing move CAN NOT be done safely!! I must agree Ernest Knuckles is one of the most difficult guys to pass. And indeed he has a blue flag... But as the rules says.. Knuckles has 3 corners to do so... He only was in his first corner. The rule also says the pass can only happen if it can be done safely. Passing in a chicane is not the way to do it I presume ... Also Hamilton can see Knuckles way up front and can clearly see he is driving a lot slower. But he keeps on going full throttle... If you watch the damage on the car of Knuckles you can see why he was driving a lot slower and was just trying to bring it home. Faster guys have to realize that also the slower cars are in a race with the cars in front and behind the.. Even if they are lapped a number of times.. He and Scatter always are fighting for position. For me to Hamilton is the man of the race.. The way he controls the car is unbelievable but does not put him above the rules.. And know he did not lose 1st position on this incident but only to chat before everyone has crossed the line. How silly it is indeed .. But again a rule needed as before when faster guys arrived they've started to chat.. While others were still fighting for positions !! Very annoying !! I know Hamilton is new and has to learn the rules.. You can do this the hard way by collecting penalties for the second race in a row .. Or you can just read them before you participate our races.... They are offered in 5 different languages so no excuse there.. And now more about Knuckles .. He is our oldest member and I am VERY PROUD to have him on our league with his age of ..... 70 !!! I hope that also you can tell later you still race at your 70 and feel young again !! And now that we are at the subject of slow drivers it is strange you did not mention Scatter. Also he goes of a lot But I have such a large respect for him !!! You want to know why ?? Read this and become small... : belsimracing.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=whoami&action=display&thread=470You say Knuckles does not communicate a lot.. indeed he does not use his keyboard a lot.. But on teamspeak we do speak a lot. As you could read in the article in the website we also are online on teamspeak every week. : www.liveforspeed.be/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=210%3Ateamspeak&catid=61%3Asoftware&Itemid=1I end this conversation now by telling that we allow EVERY racer in our league unless he is kicked out of it for some reasons.. So if you are lightning fast or turtle slow.. You are welcome !!! As long you respect each other and realize that ALSO that slower car is racing against the guys around him !! We are here to have FUN FUN and again FUN .. No stress and driving cars of to gain positions. Cya on track guys !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 17:08:29 GMT 1
wow 70 years old, respect:D now i fully uderstand issues with knuckles;d i sometimes just thought that he doing this for fun, i mean blocking or crashing couse he seems to not care, and that was the most annoying thing but now everything is clear ;d
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