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Post by humbleridderen on Feb 9, 2009 2:25:58 GMT 1
if cramer wouldn't have been there, my tactics would have worked. i passed senna on the last lap. I´m sorry for that, towzt It was also really difficult to get my pit strategy to work. Had to save fuel in different ways, using 6 gear from time to time, making the set stable, drafting, going slowly some times and calculating (hoping) for some safetycar periods. Problem was that there wasn´t any safetycar periods in the first part. All came in the last part. If not, I would have had to pit also...a "splash and dash" I had app. 1% fuel left in the tank, when I crossed the line and had 31-32 seconds down to number 2. That was a nice relief feeling. I knew that speed alone was not sufficient to win a race like this, so i put all my priority into strategy, stability and drafting. Sennaboy was clearly the fastest solo driver, but buy working together (especially with Kongshavn) and a good strategy I won and even got the fastest lap in the race. I understand there is a problem with the safetycar, but i can´t imagine that it can change the 1st place i got. 32 seconds ahead at the finish.
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Post by humbleridderen on Feb 9, 2009 3:21:12 GMT 1
I looked at the episode of the safetycar (lap164, official 165...)) I can see, that in the last sc situation, sennaboy was behind Scatter (who I think, sennaboy thought was the SC, but wasn´t). Then Scatter drove away up to the field. At that time hanziboy was after the Sc and i was just behind Hanziboy. Then hanziboy passed the Sc so he could be the last car in the row and then i was the 1st car behind the Sc, as I should. Everybody got their position as they should. Nothing wrong here.
At the moment when the safetycar was called, i was 1,5 laps in front of Sennaboy.. because of the Sc Sennaboy gained more or less 0,5 lap on that. So i cannot see any problem here.
Admins, I don´t think you realized, how much i gained on the 1 pitstrategy...I was 1,5 lap ahead, so the safetycar did it all correct! I was on lap 166 and he was on lap 165 at the official (and delayed) time of the sc message
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Post by towzt on Feb 9, 2009 5:37:20 GMT 1
hanzi, senna and me where looking at the replays afer the race. we didn't have the slightest idea where you gained that lap. but we found out that when you exited your 1st pi stop that Senna was 200m behind you; then a saftetycar was needed, sa you went from alkmost a lap behind to 5sec behind . You where so lucky bout the last safetycar, if it woulnd't have been there, you would have run out of fuell . i won some time by pitting when the safetycar came in and not changing my tires for hte entire race (that was why i was all over the track in the last 10 mins )
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Post by xtian on Feb 9, 2009 7:24:55 GMT 1
thank you all for you enthousiasm in the safety car procedure and most of all for taking part to the season that ended with this race! The results of this race are consdered temporary only, not so much because of the terrible way I lead the safety car on the last exit, (waiting for the 1rst runner while hanzi queued behind me as the SC) But because of some other irregularities . as a reminder, when a car is unable to continue his race, the SC is called and the crashed car has to WAIT untill the whole pack rejoins in a single line and passes in front of him, then, and then only he can reset, and then only, he can enter the pits. I can only hope those irregularities were only mistakes due to the excitment, and not a way to tell us all to shove our rules and sportmanships up our bottom (if you excuse my french). now reviewing a 2 hour race will take some time. sorry about that. congrats to all those who took part and ran the whole way through! see you on the 22 for the all automatic race. and this time if i see one of you use a manual shifter "by accident", I CUT YOUR FINGER OFF!
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Post by pe on Feb 9, 2009 8:53:37 GMT 1
Sorry Mumhra, I didn't see you spin. By the time I saw that the nose of your car was messed up it was too late to call the SC since you was going again. Maybe I should have called it anyway, I don't know. So my apologies to you bro. No need for you to be sorry Scatter. I was not expecting a safety car. The rules said only when a car was stranded or flipped and since being stranded almost is impossible on a track like this i thought that the only time a safety car was going to come out was when someone was flipped. So i got going as soon as possible. But with speeds like this you loose 10 seconds in no time so i was a little behind the field. It just all went wrong for me yesterday. I wanted to go ride my dirtbike but the only 2 tracks that were open near where i live were to crowded. So we finally decided to go to France. A 250 km drive. Went over there, rode a few laps and then rushed back home for this event. I was not even showered when the race began. My dirtbike was not even washed and that i don't like at all. I always wash it at the end of a day. But i wanted to do this event so i joined. But i just did not like it at all. And when, after 20 minutes of solo driving i got bored i decided to end it. I was not expecting a safety car because i thought the only time it was going to come out was if someone flipped so i did not think i was ever going to close up with the field. And i was not in the mood to drive 1 hour and 40 minutes in circles on my own lol. I just drove more then 2 hours from the dirtbike track to my home and i just had enough of driving i think. So i just left. Sorry bout that. It's something i would usually never do but i did. I washed my bike and after that i went for a shower.
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Post by hanziboy on Feb 9, 2009 10:22:15 GMT 1
Indeed..Cramer made it work with the 1 pit stop and of course the Safety cars..otherwise he would indeed need a splash and dash.. But with the long pits and long in and outs..you easely loose more than a lap.. So it would have been a totally different story. I had a steady race. got the same lap times as Towz-t and drove lap after lap with a gap of less then a second behind him. but at the last pitsto I calculated that i needed 65% of fuel and that I would not change my tyres. But due to watching the track I set the refuell on 100% and the tyre change at 65% ..So he chaged my tyres and filled here up 100% and by then Towz-T was fare fare away..And then of course I messed up with the SC. for not passing him. When I realized I should be at the back, it was to late.
I also saw same mistakes already in the review by Jyeutsch indeed on pitting to soon, by Cramer crossing the pit exit lines.. on first pit after incident. And Kongshavn for resetting to soon after he was hit by Jyeutsch (first Sc situation)
I must say I expected it to be a boring race, but it wasn't at all, we were very close and 2nd ant 3rd drove over the line after 2hours with only 20cm difference.
Fastest solo car by far was indeed Sennaboy but strategy and luck wrote a different story. Als a lot of nice skins out there.
Thank you all for beging here and to participate our final race of season 3.
Cu for automatic race and of course Season 4 !!
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Post by humbleridderen on Feb 9, 2009 19:06:27 GMT 1
I just want to thank this nice community, and especially the admins. I think you have made a combination of friendliness and seriousness and you have a nice relaxed attitude. It has been challenging too. I really prefered this league more than others. I have known many leagues, but they mostly turn into some snobbish leagues, where only the best sprinters gets any attention and respect or they become rude and horrible after some time and shut down. This league, this community, can be a base for a bigger league, with more participants. I hope it will develop steady step by step..and I really hope, it will never be snobbish, so everyone, who wants can have a fair chance to join and be respected for their input. Now we are waiting for the final result of this 3rd season and it has given us an idea of what to do in order to succeed in the next season. I think the fight will be even tougher. And one thing, i really think would be helpful, is to start contacting teams, drivers around and telling them to register for the 4th season. We can be dubble as many, if we start inviting each of us. Let´s make it real!
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Post by hanziboy on Feb 10, 2009 8:28:04 GMT 1
I just want to thank this nice community, and especially the admins. I think you have made a combination of friendliness and seriousness and you have a nice relaxed attitude. It has been challenging too. I really prefered this league more than others. I have known many leagues, but they mostly turn into some snobbish leagues, where only the best sprinters gets any attention and respect or they become rude and horrible after some time and shut down. This league, this community, can be a base for a bigger league, with more participants. I hope it will develop steady step by step..and I really hope, it will never be snobbish, so everyone, who wants can have a fair chance to join and be respected for their input. Now we are waiting for the final result of this 3rd season and it has given us an idea of what to do in order to succeed in the next season. I think the fight will be even tougher. And one thing, i really think would be helpful, is to start contacting teams, drivers around and telling them to register for the 4th season. We can be dubble as many, if we start inviting each of us. Let´s make it real! Thank you for those kind words !! We try to do our best.. And indeed we could use the double of members and the method is simple, drive on our server and if some come online just advertise the league, I have made some shortcut keys for this. Like : - Welcome on the liveforspeed.be server
- We are an international league
- This is the combo for next race
- More information on how to join on www.liveforspeed.be
And of course if you know other members, try to bring them to us. An other method is to participate with our members to an event as one "liveforspeed.be" team. Therefore we adjust our nickname in ro "Liveforspeed.be_HZ" (in my case) or XT for Xtian. Also when you drive on an other server , you can change your name to that nickname to advertise. We also have placed the Liveforspeed.be skin online. You can find them on our website. so use them when you drive on other servers. They can only help. And it they are very nice looking skins !! So enough methods to help us increase the number of members. More members means more action , more fun , but indeed sometimes more trouble.. But that is what we are here for Thanks for the support !!
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Post by Rasta on Feb 11, 2009 14:11:26 GMT 1
Word of congratulations for a varied and competitive Season 3. I did not attend all the races but the ones that i did were very good. The league has some very good/fair drivers and that i give respect. The admins. You have to put a lot of work,time and effort into the league and it is worth saying thanks. I know Season 4 will be every bit as complete as season 3 and possibly more competitive. As a driver in the league it's great. Thanks to everyone drivers and admins. See in Season 4.
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Post by hanziboy on Feb 13, 2009 11:22:19 GMT 1
Thanks Rasta !!!
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Post by hanziboy on Feb 13, 2009 11:41:38 GMT 1
At last the result ( will be put online soon)
Qualify
1. Sennaboy 0:38.76 Pole position 2. [TDRT] A.Kongshavn 0:38.80 3. Towz-T 0:38.86 4. Hanziboy 0:38.95 5. UNI Cramer 0:38.96 6. Wellington 0:39.14 7. Rasta 0:39.27 8. SLO_Scatter 0:39.30 9. Mumhra 0:39.31 10. Jyuetsch 0:39.45 ******************************************** Race :
Lap 3 - Mumhra and Wellington touch which causes Mumhra to hit the wall. Mumhra did not call for SC, and I missed it, Mumhra keeps going. Just a racing incident. Lap 30 - Mumhra left Lap 51 - Wellington disconnected Lap 95 - Kongshavn and Jyuetsch get together...Kongshavn is on his side. Kongshavn used reset before the SC had brought the field by him, and he drove around and caught up to the SC. (11.10 Resetting car during Safety Car procedure when not allowed (to early), penalty 1 Lap.) Lap 141 - Kongshavn crossed pit exit line. But Rasta stood at the end of the exit line, so no penalty of 20 seconds this time. Lap 168 - Jyuetsch pitted before pits were opened. ( 11.8 Entering pit when pitlane is closed during Safety Car situation, penalty 1 Lap)
Lap 173 - 55secs to go and Cramer is the leader.
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Finish
1. UNI Cramer gained 4 places ( best climber) 2. towz-T gained 1 place 3. sennaboy lost 2 places 4. hanziboy no loss/gain 5. SLO_Scatter/XT gained 3 place 6. [TDRT] A.Kongshavn lost 4 places 7. Jyuetsch gained 3 places *************************************************
Points Results
1. UNI Cramer 20+2+1+2 Fastest lap, Highest climber 2. Towz-T 15+2 3. Sennaboy 10+3+2 Pole position 4. Hanziboy 8+2 5. SLO_Scatter/XT 7+2 5. [TDRT] A.Kongshavn 5+2 6. Jyuetsch 4+2 8. Rasta DNF 2pts for attending 9. Wellington DNF 2pts for attending 10. Mumhra DNF left before race over
Pfff, a long review and discussion by the stewards, now I know why we have to limit those long races ;c)) And of course first official race of the Safety car rules at hand. Remember the safety car rules are in order now on every practice and Official race where the leader is the Safety car. Text and command for the Sc procedure are given by an admin The call for SC can be given an admin or stranded car.
Cu all on the automatic practice event this Sunday !!!
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Post by towzt on Feb 13, 2009 12:13:02 GMT 1
i don't know if i can make it, going to budapest for the weekend, if my plane gets back on time; i'll be there; thx for the great season, hope to be a top 5 competitor the next one
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Post by hanziboy on Feb 13, 2009 12:18:20 GMT 1
....hope to be a top 5 competitor the next one When I see you driving style, that will not be a problem.
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Post by humbleridderen on Feb 13, 2009 20:47:18 GMT 1
Grats Gnomie for you overall win: The best man won!
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Post by hanziboy on Feb 14, 2009 9:39:26 GMT 1
indeed Gratz to Gnomie as number 3 season winner !!!! Even with the number of races he missed, he still stays on top of the list !!
Well done mate !!
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